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Anniversary MK4 rims on MK5.
« on: January 13, 2017, 12:34:34 pm »
Just after some advice really.

I'd really like a set of BBS RC 336 rims from the MK4 anniversary on my MK5. Is it possible without a ton of headaches?

Would ideally like to know if there is a set of hubs out there from anything in the VAG range that will fit the MK5 and have the correct PCD.

Either that or I'm contemplating drilling/welding the originals to take the wheels.

Have (half-ar5ed) searched but haven't found anything. Anyone done it and have a nice easy solution for me?

Cheers,

Mick.  :happy2:

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Re: Anniversary MK4 rims on MK5.
« Reply #1 on: January 13, 2017, 01:21:07 pm »
Blimey, that will be a task!  Unless there's a lesser spec Golf that uses the same hub/bearing assembly with the 5x100 stud pattern, you're kind of limited to adapters/spacers, or redrilling!

Keep us posted as it's an interesting idea  :smiley:

I presume BBS have stopped making RCs now?


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Re: Anniversary MK4 rims on MK5.
« Reply #2 on: January 13, 2017, 01:27:52 pm »
Blimey, that will be a task!  Unless there's a lesser spec Golf that uses the same hub/bearing assembly with the 5x100 stud pattern, you're kind of limited to adapters/spacers, or redrilling!

Keep us posted as it's an interesting idea  :smiley:

I presume BBS have stopped making RCs now?

I haven't tried BBS but i'd assume they'd be a small fortune if they still do them.  :sick:

I borrowed a set of adapters from a friend but as suspected, the offset was WAY off. The wheels stuck out about 25mm past the arches.

However, that's when the idea came to me about drilling the hubs as I can bolt the adapters to the original hubs and use the other 5x100 holes to align the new holes perfectly, drill/tap and weld up the old holes for strength(if needed). The hubs are fully removable on the MK5 complete with bearing, the Mk4 are not.

Just thought id throw out the question before i commit to engineering solutions!  :signLOL:

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Re: Anniversary MK4 rims on MK5.
« Reply #3 on: January 13, 2017, 01:56:03 pm »
Blimey, that will be a task!  Unless there's a lesser spec Golf that uses the same hub/bearing assembly with the 5x100 stud pattern, you're kind of limited to adapters/spacers, or redrilling!

Keep us posted as it's an interesting idea  :smiley:

I presume BBS have stopped making RCs now?

I haven't tried BBS but i'd assume they'd be a small fortune if they still do them.  :sick:

I borrowed a set of adapters from a friend but as suspected, the offset was WAY off. The wheels stuck out about 25mm past the arches.

However, that's when the idea came to me about drilling the hubs as I can bolt the adapters to the original hubs and use the other 5x100 holes to align the new holes perfectly, drill/tap and weld up the old holes for strength(if needed). The hubs are fully removable on the MK5 complete with bearing, the Mk4 are not.

Just thought id throw out the question before i commit to engineering solutions!  :signLOL:

Yeah RCs have gone for good, brand new at least.   Shame as they were very nice wheels, and bloody light too!

Your idea sounds spot on tbh!  If there's enough meat between the drillings in the hub, I wouldn't worry too much about plug welding them.  312mm discs from VAG come multi-drilled as standard these days, so it's probably strong enough.

As you say, it can be done on the bench with MK5 hubs!  If you fancy using new bearings (I would personally....whilst you're in there and all that), get them quick as they're going up in price next week!


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Re: Anniversary MK4 rims on MK5.
« Reply #4 on: January 13, 2017, 02:12:47 pm »
Blimey, that will be a task!  Unless there's a lesser spec Golf that uses the same hub/bearing assembly with the 5x100 stud pattern, you're kind of limited to adapters/spacers, or redrilling!

Keep us posted as it's an interesting idea  :smiley:

I presume BBS have stopped making RCs now?

I haven't tried BBS but i'd assume they'd be a small fortune if they still do them.  :sick:

I borrowed a set of adapters from a friend but as suspected, the offset was WAY off. The wheels stuck out about 25mm past the arches.

However, that's when the idea came to me about drilling the hubs as I can bolt the adapters to the original hubs and use the other 5x100 holes to align the new holes perfectly, drill/tap and weld up the old holes for strength(if needed). The hubs are fully removable on the MK5 complete with bearing, the Mk4 are not.

Just thought id throw out the question before i commit to engineering solutions!  :signLOL:

Yeah RCs have gone for good, brand new at least.   Shame as they were very nice wheels, and bloody light too!

Your idea sounds spot on tbh!  If there's enough meat between the drillings in the hub, I wouldn't worry too much about plug welding them.  312mm discs from VAG come multi-drilled as standard these days, so it's probably strong enough.

As you say, it can be done on the bench with MK5 hubs!  If you fancy using new bearings (I would personally....whilst you're in there and all that), get them quick as they're going up in price next week!

Cheers man, yeah, I think it will be the way to go alright.

Thanks for the tip on the bearing prices but I work for an aftermarket parts wholesaler so I'm sorted on that front. We stock Febi, FAG etc, spoiled for choice!

I always like the RC's, I had a spare set for my old Anniversary which I'd had refurbished to sell with the car. The buyer opted not to take them so they're sitting at home............egging me on! :)

What can I say, I'm weak!

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Re: Anniversary MK4 rims on MK5.
« Reply #5 on: January 13, 2017, 02:17:17 pm »
Blimey, that will be a task!  Unless there's a lesser spec Golf that uses the same hub/bearing assembly with the 5x100 stud pattern, you're kind of limited to adapters/spacers, or redrilling!

Keep us posted as it's an interesting idea  :smiley:

I presume BBS have stopped making RCs now?

I haven't tried BBS but i'd assume they'd be a small fortune if they still do them.  :sick:

I borrowed a set of adapters from a friend but as suspected, the offset was WAY off. The wheels stuck out about 25mm past the arches.

However, that's when the idea came to me about drilling the hubs as I can bolt the adapters to the original hubs and use the other 5x100 holes to align the new holes perfectly, drill/tap and weld up the old holes for strength(if needed). The hubs are fully removable on the MK5 complete with bearing, the Mk4 are not.

Just thought id throw out the question before i commit to engineering solutions!  :signLOL:

Yeah RCs have gone for good, brand new at least.   Shame as they were very nice wheels, and bloody light too!

Your idea sounds spot on tbh!  If there's enough meat between the drillings in the hub, I wouldn't worry too much about plug welding them.  312mm discs from VAG come multi-drilled as standard these days, so it's probably strong enough.

As you say, it can be done on the bench with MK5 hubs!  If you fancy using new bearings (I would personally....whilst you're in there and all that), get them quick as they're going up in price next week!

Cheers man, yeah, I think it will be the way to go alright.

Thanks for the tip on the bearing prices but I work for an aftermarket parts wholesaler so I'm sorted on that front. We stock Febi, FAG etc, spoiled for choice!

I always like the RC's, I had a spare set for my old Anniversary which I'd had refurbished to sell with the car. The buyer opted not to take them so they're sitting at home............egging me on! :)

What can I say, I'm weak!

Nice one  :happy2:  The genuines I bought last week are FAG ( :grin: - childish I know) so I'd use those personally.  Nice clean metal to drill / weld!

Really keen to see the results of this as the RC is one of my fave wheels ever, second after the LM!


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Re: Anniversary MK4 rims on MK5.
« Reply #6 on: January 13, 2017, 02:31:06 pm »
Blimey, that will be a task!  Unless there's a lesser spec Golf that uses the same hub/bearing assembly with the 5x100 stud pattern, you're kind of limited to adapters/spacers, or redrilling!

Keep us posted as it's an interesting idea  :smiley:

I presume BBS have stopped making RCs now?

I haven't tried BBS but i'd assume they'd be a small fortune if they still do them.  :sick:

I borrowed a set of adapters from a friend but as suspected, the offset was WAY off. The wheels stuck out about 25mm past the arches.

However, that's when the idea came to me about drilling the hubs as I can bolt the adapters to the original hubs and use the other 5x100 holes to align the new holes perfectly, drill/tap and weld up the old holes for strength(if needed). The hubs are fully removable on the MK5 complete with bearing, the Mk4 are not.

Just thought id throw out the question before i commit to engineering solutions!  :signLOL:

Yeah RCs have gone for good, brand new at least.   Shame as they were very nice wheels, and bloody light too!

Your idea sounds spot on tbh!  If there's enough meat between the drillings in the hub, I wouldn't worry too much about plug welding them.  312mm discs from VAG come multi-drilled as standard these days, so it's probably strong enough.

As you say, it can be done on the bench with MK5 hubs!  If you fancy using new bearings (I would personally....whilst you're in there and all that), get them quick as they're going up in price next week!

Cheers man, yeah, I think it will be the way to go alright.

Thanks for the tip on the bearing prices but I work for an aftermarket parts wholesaler so I'm sorted on that front. We stock Febi, FAG etc, spoiled for choice!

I always like the RC's, I had a spare set for my old Anniversary which I'd had refurbished to sell with the car. The buyer opted not to take them so they're sitting at home............egging me on! :)

What can I say, I'm weak!

Nice one  :happy2:  The genuines I bought last week are FAG ( :grin: - childish I know) so I'd use those personally.  Nice clean metal to drill / weld!

Really keen to see the results of this as the RC is one of my fave wheels ever, second after the LM!

Good taste! :happy2:

There's a set of LM replicas on the car at the moment which I fitted 4 years ago and despite my best efforts the lips have gone horrible on them. I'm also due another set of tires and the set on the RC's are almost new so it makes sense to spend a little on hubs and drilling VS a lot on refurbishing old LM reps and new tires.

I'll update the thread if (read : when) I make the leap.....unless anyone else chimes in with hubs which already exist that I can just swap.......here's hoping!

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Re: Anniversary MK4 rims on MK5.
« Reply #7 on: January 13, 2017, 02:41:51 pm »

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Re: Anniversary MK4 rims on MK5.
« Reply #8 on: January 13, 2017, 02:42:39 pm »

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Re: Anniversary MK4 rims on MK5.
« Reply #9 on: January 13, 2017, 02:43:45 pm »
Anyone willing or able to photoshop a set of MK4 Anniversary BBS RC rims on please?

« Last Edit: January 13, 2017, 02:49:27 pm by mkmg76 »

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Re: Anniversary MK4 rims on MK5.
« Reply #10 on: January 13, 2017, 03:31:43 pm »
Nice  :happy2:

I don't know if it's because your car is white, but they almost look as if they could do with being 19s for a bit more presence  :smiley:



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Re: Anniversary MK4 rims on MK5.
« Reply #11 on: January 13, 2017, 03:35:59 pm »
Just had a quick browse on this site and noticed the Audi S1 and 'new beetle' are both 5 x 100 - https://www.wheel-size.com/pcd/5x100/

If they have hub/bearing inserts like the MK5/6, you could be onto a winner!


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Re: Anniversary MK4 rims on MK5.
« Reply #12 on: January 13, 2017, 03:50:28 pm »
Nice  :happy2:

I don't know if it's because your car is white, but they almost look as if they could do with being 19s for a bit more presence  :smiley:

The design of LMs do make them look small... odd I know

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« Reply #13 on: January 13, 2017, 04:29:44 pm »
Just had a quick browse on this site and noticed the Audi S1 and 'new beetle' are both 5 x 100 - https://www.wheel-size.com/pcd/5x100/

If they have hub/bearing inserts like the MK5/6, you could be onto a winner!

Excellent, thanks for that mate. I'll get looking on the system this side and see if they match up bar the PCD.

Nice  :happy2:

I don't know if it's because your car is white, but they almost look as if they could do with being 19s for a bit more presence  :smiley:

I agree mate, they do look a touch small but the roads around where I live would not really be what you'd call 19" friendly and I like to drive my car, not pussyfoot around like some of the posers out there! :confused:

I don't have a side on picture but the don't look as small from that angle. It's one of the reasons I have such a soft spot for the RC's, the design of the spokes running almost all the way out to the lip makes them look much bigger than they are.

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« Reply #14 on: January 13, 2017, 06:09:33 pm »
Just had a quick browse on this site and noticed the Audi S1 and 'new beetle' are both 5 x 100 - https://www.wheel-size.com/pcd/5x100/

If they have hub/bearing inserts like the MK5/6, you could be onto a winner!

Excellent, thanks for that mate. I'll get looking on the system this side and see if they match up bar the PCD.

Nice  :happy2:

I don't know if it's because your car is white, but they almost look as if they could do with being 19s for a bit more presence  :smiley:

I agree mate, they do look a touch small but the roads around where I live would not really be what you'd call 19" friendly and I like to drive my car, not pussyfoot around like some of the posers out there! :confused:

I don't have a side on picture but the don't look as small from that angle. It's one of the reasons I have such a soft spot for the RC's, the design of the spokes running almost all the way out to the lip makes them look much bigger than they are.

Fingers crossed those cars use the same setup!

Where abouts in Ireland are you mate?  I was driving around the Cork area about 10 years ago and I agree, the roads are 'interesting'  :grin:  Slammed cars wouldn't do so well on the bumps!

Good luck with the project  :happy2:


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